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fiftyv8
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365 Engine Info
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September 06, 2011, 09:11:31 AM »
What is the correct carby for my 365 engine and what is the outside diameter of the ring gear, is it the same as that for a T700 tranny on a SBC engine
I want to install a T700R4 tranny behind this Cadillac engine...
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Re: 365 Engine Info
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September 07, 2011, 10:26:45 AM »
Sorry, I do not know the answer, but what you refer to as "ring gear" is called the flex plate here in the USA. In 1957 the carburetor was a Rochester 4 BBL Model 7015701.
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Re: 365 Engine Info
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September 07, 2011, 01:01:13 PM »
Quote from: fiftyv8 on September 06, 2011, 09:11:31 AM
What is the correct carby for my 365 engine
Russ
What year is your 365?
If 56, engine unit number will start with:
4X - Series 62, 60S or 75 w/o ac, w/o dual carbs,
4XK Series 62, 60S or 75, w/ac, w/o dual carbs,
5X Series 86 CC w/o ac, w/o dual carbs,
5XK Series 86 CC w/ac, w/o dual carbs
7X Series 62, 60S w/dual carbs w/o ac or
7XK Series 62, 60S w/dual carbs w/ac
If it is a 57, engine numbers will run similar to 58 on this list in link below but first digit will be a 7 instead of 8.
http://www.modifiedcadillac.org/documents/Shop_Manuals_and_Illus_Catalogs/Master%20Parts%20List%20thru%201964/General/tn/Gen%20Info%20-%207.jpg.html
Of course, you reviewed the MCLC Docs section, right?
http://www.modifiedcadillac.org/documents/1950s/1956/1956%20Cadillac%20Eight%20AEA%20Tune%20Up%20System%20Aug%201956/tn/1956%20Cadillac%20Eight%20AEA%20Tune%20Up%20System%20Aug%201956-1.jpg.html
http://www.modifiedcadillac.org/documents/1950s/1957/1957%20Cadillac%20Eight%20AEA%20Tune%20Up%20System/tn/1957%20Cadillac%20Eight%20AEA%20Tune%20Up%20System-1.jpg.html
Or, check out bottom of the page:
http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Kcadillac1.htm
and top of this page:
http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Kcadillac2.htm
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Re: 365 Engine Info
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September 09, 2011, 11:58:07 PM »
So far I now know that it comes with a 4 barrel intake manifold and attached is a pic of the rear of the engine with a couple of numbers.
Is this any help...
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September 10, 2011, 09:13:58 PM »
If you are want to convert to a sbc, it requires modifications to fit the existing transmission. If you are wanting to change transmissions, then it requires modifications. There are are no real interchanges except within Cadillac. But with a beer in one hand and a blow torch in the other and lots of money - anything can be made to fit.
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September 11, 2011, 08:41:38 PM »
Boy that was helpful advice....
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Re: 365 Engine Info
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September 12, 2011, 05:55:14 AM »
i don't have the original tranny anymore or i'd measure the starter ring for you. i'm using one of these adapters to mate a chevy tranny to my 365. the starter you find at any auto parts house.
http://www.wilcap.com/cad.html#cad350mtchevybop
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Re: 365 Engine Info
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September 13, 2011, 02:12:59 AM »
Thanks for the info, I have emailed Wilcap, lets see what they have got.
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September 14, 2011, 06:35:58 AM »
1956-up Hydramatic ring-gear measures approximately 14.75" OD, by tape measure.
Bendsten's also sells a kit:
http://www.transmissionadapters.com/cad_early.htm
I like that the Bendsten kit uses a common stock GM flexplate (flywheel) and a rugged and cheap GM-type vertical bolt starter motor.
Yes, I owe Bendstens a plug. I hired Bendsten's for some one-off custom work and found them to be extremely knowledgeable and courteous, providing extensive follow-through on working out details which were above and beyond their part of the project.
Good Luck
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Re: 365 Engine Info
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September 14, 2011, 07:12:34 AM »
Thankyou for your flywheel info and reference to Bendtsen's.
Good news is the previous owner of the engine contacted me to say they had discovered the original carby in a box during a shop clean up and now it's mine when I can go get it.
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September 14, 2011, 06:51:15 PM »
Have you looked at this :
http://modified.hostnexus.com/articles/Cadillac_700R4/Cadillac700R4.html
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September 15, 2011, 03:24:55 AM »
No, never saw this before, thanks for the link, any idea of cost???
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September 15, 2011, 09:06:58 AM »
Yeah, I've got a REAL good idea of the cost as it came from my bank account.
The adapter is $795 and the shifter arm was like $45.
The driveshaft was $150.
Trans, installatiion cost will depend on your local shop.
Gary
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September 15, 2011, 05:39:31 PM »
Thanks Gary, I can install it all myself so just the adapter kit and drive shaft work will be required.
Since Wilcap have not replied to my email, I will contact Bendstens.
I am sure someone will be willing to lighten my wallet.
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Re: 365 Engine Info
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September 23, 2011, 01:54:16 AM »
havent been here for ages. my '57 365 had the original (edit>)rochester carb on it.
after much pain, we got a holley on there now.
still got my old one if you get stuck russell...
i hope to do the opposite to you soon, put a chev in it but hooked up to my cad box. ha.
glenn.
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